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Tamara Lich πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦'s avatar

Thank you for this Neil. πŸ™πŸΌ

Aimee Smith's avatar

God Bless the Freedom Convoy! And thank you Neil for sharing this book and keeping it front and center. We in America like to dunk on our Canadian neighbors as too polite to demand anything, but this was truly a stand admired across the world. In my town much closer to the Mexican Border than the Canadian Border, we held rush hour standouts on over passes with Canadian flags and signs saying thank you to the Trucker Convoy. The persecution against these leaders was also noted across the world. The new means of making the right to property via banks conditional on not questioning the orders undemocratically devised and imposed from above. We must not forget the example of the convoy because the agenda that the COVID operation was a means toward advancing has not been scrapped. We have much more to do to free ourselves from the global 5G-mediated-internet-of-things-social-credit-score-surveillance-prison-cell they want us all to walk into. The Convoy's giant "NO" was a very important and very effective battle won in this war against us. May God protect these brave souls and may we never forget their courage. sacrifice and contribution in the war to preserve human freedom.

Neil McDougall's avatar

Amen πŸ™

Syd (is not my real name)'s avatar

Why can’t people leave their damn political affiliations out of their religious beliefs!?

Your last sentence took your whole review down, for me.

Whatever.

Aimee Smith's avatar

His chocolate got into your peanut butter? Can you quote the sentence, I am not following. But I will point out, most of the world sees politics and religion intertwined. "Secularism" has been the short exception to most of human history. For 1000 years the West operated under a shared theological understanding. It shaped everything, scholarship, governance, economics, culture. I am among those who believe the attack on this way of organizing society was for those who wanted to exploit and enslave and steal. We can have that debate if you disagree, but just trying to point out that your assumption that it is better to keep politics out of theology and theology out of politics is not even a majority view in this world. You are of course entitled to consider it ideal, but should you expect it of others? Or maybe I am missing what you are trying to say.

Syd (is not my real name)'s avatar

The rest of the comment…

What I am wanting to say is that I take no issue with the Religion nor the religious philosophy of a writer - and I make no demand that a person separate their Faith from their politics. I personally know, for me, that’s not logical.

If I don’t want to read the religious perception of a writer, then I don’t read that writer’s work.

Ditto for politics. I’m able to discern my choices.

Maybe not so able to discern page/text separations.πŸ˜‘

Now, to the crux of my comment, which definitely was not apparent:

The writer says β€˜Jesus was a Palestinian’ :

1) there was no β€˜Palestine’ as a formal country, it was merely a descriptor for a region that held different import for different peoples; β€˜Palestine’ became the name for a designated area after WW1 likely because the region was known as Palestine, representative of the Philistines long connected to it. (Severely long story generalized and made short!)

2) Calling Jesus a β€˜Palestinian’ now is so tainted with political nonsense as to be an insult to whatever Jesus represents for people.

3) That this assertion comes after a review of a book based on a peoples’ fight for freedom from tyranny is not an accident.

4) Most repellent is that it’s used in relation with a book about Canadian freedom fighters, a country that doesn’t deserve to be disgraced and infringed upon by the political infighting of foreigners on our soil.

Hence, my repel at the use of the phrase in the article.

Aimee Smith's avatar

See my other comment about concerns of your purpose here, but ok, I will respond to your post at face value. The region of Palestine was recognized in the Roman Empire, which is closer to the time of Jesus than now. People who reject the idea of a state for ethno-religious Jews at the expense of Christians and Muslims in the Holy land, a state founded by atheists by means of pressuring world powers and using terror, deception, espionage and assassination might like to point out that Jesus could fairly be described as a Palestinian. I also think he can be described a s a Jew. And if you put those two together, it helps expose the fraudulent trick of thinking it makes any sense to let a group complaining about being persecuted and exiled to create a state by persecuting and exiling others! So we will have to agree to disagree on this. I think the author's point is just tossed out to make people think along with every other idea he wrote. I think you getting triggered by it speaks to your personal frustration or passion or rage over the issue and is a you problem, not a him problem. You are entitled to you view, but so is he. While it would be fine for you to state where you disagree, trying to somehow accuse the author of being in error or somehow misleading readers is just unfounded and unfair.

But sif you are just paid to go out and muddy the waters online under a fake name when people dare to point out the obvious hypocrisy of the mythology and claimed "morality" around the creation and expansion of the modern state of Israel, you wouldn't necessarily care about being fair or honorable.

And if you are concerned with people putting the conflict in the Holy Land on your soil, you are late to notice. Canada is corrupted by required loyalty for Israel, even in the Green Party. That has been going on for decades, long before the author wrote his review.

Syd (is not my real name)'s avatar

Just hit β€˜send’ by mistake….my comment is not completed!

Syd (is not my real name)'s avatar

Good response, thank you, and yes, you did take it in a different direction. But that’s because on the face of my comment, it does appear as if I am suggesting secular and religious entities need stay separate.

That’s not what I meant to say, and also - that’s only looking at the comment superficially.

But..

In response to your comment I took another look at the review, and only then did I notice that it may be such that the writer added a text box that may be used across all of his posts….in which case I may have been distracted because of my take, and not his assertion about Jesus.

But fair enough…allow me to explain: the last sentence I refer to is β€œJesus is a Palestinian.”

To me, that has absolutely no bearing at any level with the writer’s book review, and yet it appeared to be simply a continuation of the review.

This immediately detracted from everything I had just read because…

Given the maniacal political rage across the globe about the β€˜war between Jerusalem and Palestine’ it seemed to me to be a blatant insertion of a personal political bias.

Important note: I was not familiar with the writer, to know his political or religious bent: and I don’t need to be*.

It struck me as a sleight of hand, offering a fairly unbiased review of a situation and then blind-siding the reader with an assertion clearly meant to disrupt the flow.

Aimee Smith's avatar

You don't post in your real name and you focus your entire feeling on the opinion "Jesus is a Palestinian?" Then you claim the earlier part of his post was unbiased but that part was not? This sounds disingenuous and Israel has upped their budget to hire online trolls to go around and spread deception and nonsense, so praying you are just some deceived boomer or was unfortunate enough to be under a deceiving Zionist pastor, but the author was not without bias in any part of his post. He is expressing his opinions about Canada, the Truckers protest, the book. So your concern seems to be out of place. Am I wasting time discussing with a paid agent or IDF unit 8200 member clocking in his hours for the day?

Syd (is not my real name)'s avatar

Philistines.

They were Philistines, not β€˜Palestinians’.

Nothing was β€˜Palestine’ until the region was renamed Syrian Palestine, and I’m sure bastardization of language simply helped to create β€˜Palestine’ out of it all.

How convenient for today’s virtue signallers.

I don’t support Zionists in their insidious destruction of humanity.

I don’t support a people who call themselves β€˜Palestinians’ and shriek and wail that they are being imposed upon while at the same time they enforce their own demands on free people by murdering, blowing up, slicing and dicing, raping and generally pillaging every square inch of the planet that they touch.

Oohhh…. Yeah. I just said what I think of the whole shit show, and yes - it enrages me and I think nothing but disgust for any Canadian who supports any of that insanity.

I’m not a paid mouth piece for Jews or Zionists, and I sure as hell don’t condone one iota of the fakery that is the β€˜plight of Palestine’.

In any case, that you took adamant and ferocious issue with someone implying resistance to Jesus being called a β€˜Palestinian’ still has nothing to do with what I initially posted: whether he was β€˜β€™Palestinian’, or Inuit, or Costa Rican is Not The Point.

And with this as my last comment: I said what I said BECAUSE I MISTAKENLY THOUGHT THAT THE WRITER’S ASSERTION ABOUT JESUS APPEARED TO BE PART OF HIS MAIN ARTICLE.

Holee fk.

Neil McDougall's avatar

Good healthy dialogue here you two. Ur correct Syd, the signature for the article has been my footer for more than one year on every post.

I'm still shocked that there are some people who have managed to stay in denial about an ongoing genocide/ ethnic cleansing of our time. This isn't a political statement, there is no argument regarding the facts. Christians, women, children, aid workers , medical staff, hospitals, schools, journalists etc etc. It's an ongoing war crime of colossal proportions during our time .

Besides all that, even RFK JR who I have much respect for his journey uses the term Palestinian interchange ably with Terrorist and Arab, which has seeped into many western minds 'taking on the minds of your oppressors'.

Jesus was the first Christian Palestinian and I'm surprised there is any quibble about that as well.

Thanks for your input.